Seven Ashina Spears - Shume Masaji Oniwa

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Location Ashina Reservoir (after set ablaze)
Weakness Mikiri counter followed by a perfect deflect
Reward Prayer Bead

Seven Ashina Spears - Shume Masaji Oniwa (葦名七本槍・鬼庭主馬雅次, Ashina Seven Spears - Oniwa Shume Masaji) is a Mini-Boss in Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice.

 

Seven Ashina Spears - Shume Masaji Oniwa Location

  • Found right after the "Ashina Reservoir" idol, after the castle enters the final attack phase.
  • This boss is optional.

 

 

Seven Ashina Spears - Shume Masaji Oniwa Rewards

 

 

Seven Ashina Spears - Shume Masaji Oniwa Strategies

Video Strategies

 

Strategy Writeup

Getting rid of the samurai general early:

As there is a respawning samurai general in the same arena, using the Finger Whistle prosthetic tool to lure him away and backstab him before fighting the mini-boss himself, makes the fight a lot more manageable. Using the upgraded finger whistle for a delayed sound also makes it easier to move away so you won't get spotted yourself. This can also be combined with the Puppeteer Ninjutsu, giving you a strong ally for the fight. The mini-boss will instantly aggro on to you once you attack the samurai general this way.
Alternatively, one can also use a consumable Gachiin's Sugar to sneak directly up to the general undetected.

Pupeteer and double backstab strategy(no sugar or upgraded whistle required):

It is possible to backstab Oniwa after the samurai general, making the fight trivial with pupeteer. You'll want to start the fight from the secret passage idol. To get there from the Ashina Reservoir idol, go to the branch that is on the left side of the battlefield(you'll need to run past the fight) and from there grapple over and make your way towards the passageway from the beginning of the game, which now has an idol in front of it. Rest there to reset the fight, and make your way back to approach from that branch. Now stealth and walk only a little bit into the fight area, going along the cliff on the right of the branch facing the enemies. The general will yellow triangle spot you. Now hang off the cliff. Wait for the general to approach and eventually turn back around, and then run up and backstab + pupeteer him. If done right you will be far enough from Oniwa that he will not be alerted. Now backstab him as well and finish up a relatively easy one bar fight with pupeteer assistance. Just approach Oniwa from the opposite side of the puppet, and only attack when he turns.

 

Attacks & Counters

Attack Counter
Phase 1
Example Attack Example Counter
Example Attack Example Counter
Phase 2
Example Attack Example Counter
Example Attack Example Counter

 

 

Seven Ashina Spears - Shume Masaji Oniwa Lore

 

Shume may be a close relative of Gyoubu, as they share a last name and both use long bladed spears. However, Oni roughly translates to "demon" in Japanese. Given that, in the english dub, Gyoubu is referred to as "Gyoubu the Demon" in an eavesdrop conversation, it's possible that "Oniwa" is a title or nickname rather than a family name.

Seven Ashina Spears - Shume Masaji Oniwa Notes & Trivia

Voice Actor, homages, and other trivia go here.

 

 

Seven Ashina Spears - Shume Masaji Oniwa Image Gallery

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    • Anonymous

      13 Mar 2021 22:30  

      Gachiin right from Ashina Reservoir, walked around them, and stealth killed the sidekick. Went out on the branches to reset, popped another Gachiin and waited for him to stand in his spot. Walked right up and stealth killed the first healthbar. Watch the Mikiri counter because it staggers you for a second, but it's still affective. Hit him with some fire, too.

      • Anonymous

        17 Jan 2021 01:08  

        I swear this is like the hardest mini boss in my opinion, he fights like a final boss, he is the final boss!!

        • Anonymous

          31 Dec 2020 07:53  

          You can lead the add accompanying Oniwa off the cliff that the tree branch is on. Go to the next tree branch to de-agro the boss and come back to backstab him, and fight him as usual.

          • Anonymous

            25 Nov 2020 17:41  

            since the thought of puppetering the general samurai comes so naturally I did 3 times. Each time my puppet will kick oniwa off the cliff near branch with grapple. Its a very funny seen but it happened 3 times and oniwa respawns each time after rest. So puppeteer is wothless at least that was the case of mine.

            • Anonymous

              25 Nov 2020 02:20  

              you guys are dumb, the real gamer move is to use a delayed finger whistle with projected force at the dying soldier, when they're close enough backstab shume, THEN use bloodsmoke ninjutsu on the dying soldier to blind them both, THEN switch to puppeteer ninjutsu on the general while he's still blinded. gachinn's sugar, finger whistle, two different ninjutsus, two backstabs. this is how real ****ing ninja fights, none of this kiting and hanging off cliffs ****

              • 05 May 2020 20:43  

                The cheese I found on my first ever plathrough was to use gachiin to sneak to general and use him to trigger Bestowal Ninjutsu. Extra hits from ninjutsu stunlock Oniwa interupting him until he can be deathblown. Was able to kill him before ninjutsu run out. GG

                • Anonymous

                  16 Mar 2020 16:57  

                  Mega cheese. First puppeteer the general, then lure Shume near the cliff, if you can do that fast the puppet will do a thrust attack push Shume off te cliff leaving Shinobi Execution

                  • Anonymous

                    11 Mar 2020 02:46  

                    Strategy that worked for me: 1. gaichin sugar backstab general 2. ran away to reset the boss 3. come back and backstab the boss 4. immediately puppeteer the rifleman 5. back off and let rifleman take aggro. 6. oil the boss and sparke axe him a couple times to deathblow

                    • Anonymous

                      24 Feb 2020 09:57  

                      The main counter is to mikiri him and then deflect the Following move. He wil fell down on his knees, time to hit him in the back. Repeat.

                      • Anonymous

                        30 Dec 2019 06:06  

                        An easy way, use a Gachinn sugar, target the general with the echo whistle and call him from the top of the stairs. Then move back and hide toward the flaming gate, he will not see you with the sugar active. When he turns to go back down the stairs stealth death blow on him then free stealth death blow on the seven spears also.

                        • Anonymous

                          30 Oct 2019 08:08  

                          Fun little translation note; "Oniwa" is actually a title roughly meaning "Administrator of the Stables" (referring to 主馬寮 / "shume-ryō", or "Bureau of the Stables").

                          • Anonymous

                            27 Oct 2019 17:18  

                            i got lucky with this fight because when i grappled to the branch nearby, the enemy glitched and fell off the cliff leaving me with just the mini boss

                            • Anonymous

                              14 Sep 2019 07:18  

                              discovered a semi-cheese tonight (ok, maybe it's a full cheese): equip the spin-to-win axe and fistful of ash. first sneak under the house and around the edge of the cliff to get a free backstab. when he gets up and does his stomp-pose, throw an ash in his face and spin-axe him to the ground. as he gets up, ash him again, axe him again. he'll get a hit or two in, so use an ash as cover for healing. i rinsed and repeated this about 6 times and he was done.

                              • Anonymous

                                10 Sep 2019 20:49  

                                Guys there's an easy way run and pray at the secret door idol then come back and try to sneak backstab samurai guy near to mini boss and use puppetier jutsu he will drain one life point then fight becomes easy moving forward

                                • Anonymous

                                  07 Jul 2019 03:30  

                                  This guy is pretty easy when u equip ShadowRush , go to Branch & spam L1+R1 when u reach him just swing at him then return to the branch's furthest so that his spear won't hit you... GG took me exactly 15 seconds to kill him after i first Deathblowed him with my Gachiin Spiritfall... This dude is way easier than the first ****ing Ashina Spears Dude that killed me 12 times lol. Goodluck folks

                                  • Anonymous

                                    30 Jun 2019 23:51  

                                    I've played through every dark souls multiple times, including bloodborne. This *****ing guy has been tougher for me to kill than most bosses across every game WTF am I doing wrong!?!?!? None of the advise in here helps, I've tried everything and exhausted most items. I can barely even hurt him!!!!!!!

                                    • Anonymous

                                      07 Jun 2019 16:58  

                                      I read a comment section debate between Japanese people who couldn't decide whether Gyobu's role/title was 'Gyobu', 'Oniwa' or 'Oniwa-Gyobu'. This miniboss helps shed light on the issue imo. 'Oniwa' is possibly taken from the feudal Japanese role 'Oniwa-ban', a high ranking position who was in charge of gathering info and reporting directly to the shogun (including covert info from shinobi), although the 'oni' part is written in Sekiro with the kanji for demon, possibly as a nickname or due to Isshin being fancy with wordplay in his department names. Alternatively, Oniwa could be a surname since a historical figure using those characters exists, although his name was read 'Oniniwa', not Oniwa. 'Shume' is the name of a position (basically means horsemaster). 'Gyobu', probably short for 'gyobusho-ho', also relates to a real role. SO: since Sekiro's Gyobu introduces himself in Japanese as 'Oniwa Gyobu Masataka' and since the format [name]-[title]-[name] doesn't really scan for me, even in Japanese, my opinion is that Oniwa-Gyobu and Oniwa-Shume are both full titles/roles, whilst Masataka and Masaji represent their names. It's not certain, but I was persuaded by an anon comment on bnewg sokuho, so at least one Japanese person in the world agrees which gives me weeb armour.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        05 Jun 2019 13:00  

                                        I did something different so I snuck up and death blowed him for one bar then I went to the guy sitting down and death blow bloodsmoked him and switched to puppeteer and death blow controlled the samurai and smashed his posture it was actually a lot of fun seeing it all come together like that lol

                                        • Anonymous

                                          28 May 2019 16:08  

                                          I don't know why the strategy section makes it seem so complicated, there's a much easier and reliable way to kill the small general. Crouch and walk to the left of the area and then hang from ledge. While hanging target the general and use ANY finger whistle (you don't need to upgrade or anything). He will walk over, not see you, and then turn around and walk back. When he walks back just backstab him. Now you have a fair 1v1 with spear guy. If you used puppeteer ninjutsu or are good at mikiri countering, this boss will be down in no time.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            17 May 2019 10:59  

                                            Strategy: There is a near dead foot soldier lying around, use him to trigger blood mist to stealth kill the small samurai, now you can fight a fair 1V1. Strategy 2: Ready the fire vent, rush to the cliff, wait for him to thrust attack, Mikiri counter, deflect the follow up attack, fire blast charge blast him down the cliff.

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