Jinzaemon Kumano | Sekiro Shadows Die Twice Wiki

Description is wrong you can finish this guys quest before fighting Genichiro or Heldless Ape.

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Didn't even know this guy existed till I ran across him and he yells at me about music and tries to beat me up. Wanker.

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Completely missed this guy on three different playthroughs. Didn't know he existed till I saw a picture of him.

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just to clarify, ur not really doing any luring. if u selected the lure option from Jinzaemon's dialogue simply head to the abandoned dungeon and talk to Doujun to progress the questline(s)

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I still received the Jizo Statue despite not talking to him before killing O'Rin. I activated the idol but just didnt talk to him until after O'Rin's fight.

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This Wiki article is a little misleading. If you decide to lead him to the dungeon it immediately awards 3 wax, but then continues the doctor's quest line, unlocking access to a Red Lump and Academics' Red Lump. The wiki has this listed for Kotaru, who is the other unfortunate who you can lure to the doctor.

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I didn't know he attacked you if you didn't talk with him before killing off that ghost lady and boy he really hurts in Ng+. He managed to kill me but I just resurrected and backstabbed him

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The damage this guy does at NG+ with demon bell if u sent him to Doujun it's no Joke... Almost one shot me

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Most useless guy in the game, a weird simp

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i accidentally hit him and had to kill him. No way to get him friendly again

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I like this guy, i call him jinz

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Lmao I wasn't paying attention to his dialogue at Ashina Reservoir and accidentally sent him to the abondened dungeon thinking that's how you progress his questline. Rest in peace, he died because of my stupidity

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He was destroying me over and over but then i realized he has red eyes so i used the loaded axe with the fire upgrade and he became super easy zero damage.

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This idiot do not deserve our considerations.

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May or may not have killed him at the bottomless hole

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I don't know anyone try this but when you fight with him at Abandoned Dungeon and him thrust attack I just can not miriki counter.

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I didn’t mean to but I guess I lured this guy to some horrific surgeon that will turn this guy into a monster with some ‘surgery’. Was hoping to have a cordial goodbye after O’rin, but now from what I’m reading in comments it sounds like I’ll have to face off against this dude as a mini boss later?? Warning to others: do not send this guy to the abandoned dungeon unless you want to turn him into a certified freak show

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Sending him to the dungeon actually ends his quest. I know cuz I learned that the hard way

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O'rin says something along the lines of "Lord Sakuza brought that child in his stead..." so I think it can be said safely that she is his mother, and that Sakuza is the father of Jinzaemon. Which is why his father told him to never go there, as it would be the death of him. I am not sure why that is so though, perhaps it is a reference to a story of a person of the lower caste having a child with a lord? Would like to see my questions answered one day in the trivia section...

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Seeing as how I didn't find this information here, I thought I'd let you know: I only met him in the Ashina Reservoir before finding him after the Headless Ape fight. In other words, you don't need to find him in the Abandoned Dungeon to progress the questline.

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Playing on PC, tried fighting him & Doujun together & red-eyed with no damage. A self-imposed challenge, really, but seriously, their fight is easily the most difficult mini-boss fight. Since they are basically 2 mini-bosses that I've chosen to fight together, their AI isn't coded to give breathers, like the Headless Ape and his waifu do in his 2nd phase, meaning they are aggressive AF. Doujun & Jinzaemon probably took me several dozen tries to beat as well as hundreds of spirit emblems in Leaping Flame & Flame Vent charges (don't have the Mist Raven upgrade yet). Also, for some reason Jinzaemon's thrust in this state seems to be bugged and cannot be Mikiri'd. Attempting to Mikiri simply results into a forward dodge with his thrust not dealing damage. I'm not sure about encountering him alone, but I'm certain that this bug is active when fighting him with Doujun.

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When you first meet him at the start of the game, he immediately attacked me??? He just asked if i can hear the melody and i replied with ''I dont'' and he instantly said ''Give me back the melody'' and attacked me.

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I have played on Japanese dub from day one, and no, he speaks Japanese normally

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I think he is a descendant of O'rin and Sakuza. O'rin was likely a mistress of the lord a long time ago, but something terrible probably happened (likely Sakuza either died, Sakuza's legitimate wife didn't want him seeing O'rin anymore, or O'rin died) and they could never be together again. Whatever did happen, O'rin probably gave birth to an illegitimate son beforehand. An unknown amount of years pass and that illegitimate son started a family and generations down the line comes Jinzaemon. The tragic/horrible circumstances of O'rin's death made her into a dangerous Yurei spirit, so she continues to haunt the land, forever calling to Sakuza and the son she never knew. Jinzaemon's father probably had some idea of the situation, likely through an old legend passed down and by hearing O'rin's melody himself but somehow being able to resist the call, and that's where we get the warning Jinzaemon mentioned. Something must have changed, either Jinzaemon was especially weak-willed or O'rin became more powerful and now the melody became irresistible. In the end O'rin happily departed for the afterlife, taking the soul of her "son" with her. Jinzaemon died because of the sins of his ancestors, but at least O'rin's curse is broken and she will no longer haunt the land and murder anyone she encounters.

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>He has a Westernized Japanese accent What? This is completely different. No one in Japan thinks so.

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This *****ing guy. I was okay with Saint Isshin. I was okay with The Hatred Demon. But this mother*****er made me lose my mind screaming at the end of the surgeon's quest. It's not that he is difficult to fight, it's the *****ING ARENA! WHat kind of garbage place to put a miniboss is that? It's extremely tiny, irregularly shaped and sloped, there's a crapton of things lying on the ground that you can get stuck on, and BEST of all, this asshole's favourite attack is a lightning fast dash that instakills you EVEN if you try to dodge or block it. Relatively doable miniboss turned into an absolute nightmare because of the worst battle area in the entire game.

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The second piece of trivia is wrong. In Ng+2 I didn't speak to him until just before O'rin, his dialogue was the normal first encounter lines and he had moved to his final location once I reloaded the area

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Someone here said he's weak to poison. Okami warriors are weak to poison Okami's descendants are weak to poison Orin is weak to poison. Jinzaemon will give Jinza's jizo statue to us after the quest. Orin call him "that child". Jinzaemon's father forbid him from going to Mibu..... Only he can hear the song from that *****ing far. Jinzaemon is orin's child?

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Always send him to Doujin, at least Kotaro has a decent quest reward

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Killing orin before starting his quest line makes him hostile

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This guy is such an asshole raaaa faaak

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I'd like to add that when sending Jinzaemon Kumano to Doujun, his unconcious body can be seen behind him in the locked chamber, not only can this quest line be sped up by resting at an idol and talking to doujun again repeatedly, at one point Jinzaemon Kumano's body will change into a lootsack. when this happens the voice/lines of the merchant at the start of the abandoned dungeon will change. I believe the merchants new dialogue also sheds some light as to why phantom enemies start randomly appearing everywhere in the game, as this is mostlikely a curse by Jinzaemon Kumano.

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I feel like you should have been able to send him to Anayama as well. He did ask for a strong person to help loot the battlefield… though I guess he was too ensnared in that damn music.

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first time I talked to him as Ashina Reservoir, he said something like "why can't i hear the music? it was you wasn't it! give it back to me!" and started attacking me.

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what a piece of***** of questline

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What if you talked to Jinzaemon before talking to the guy in abandoned dungeon? Are you still able to lure him down there for Doujins quest??

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I can confirm that if you discover Mibu village and the watermill idol, he skips moving to the area near guardian ape. I started a new save and basically went straight for corrupted monk(mibu). I wanted to see if I could kill her within a few tries. I ended up getting her first try. To make a long story short, I skipped o'rin by taking the route around her, killed corrupted monk, and basically went to ashina reservoir to speak with Jinzaemon. He said his normal dialog and that was that. I was expecting to meet him in abandoned dungeon/ bottomless hole, but he wouldn't show up. I then thought that perhaps he skips the guardian ape area entirely if you have already discovered the idol near O'rin. Sure enough, I was right. This means you can finish his questline pretty early. I haven't even been in Ashina castle yet, or sunken valley and I've already killed corrupted monk.

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Jinzaemon is definitely related to O'rin. The item given to you expresses parental love and he does mention in dialogue that his father had warned him not to go toward mizu village. I can't wait for Vaati to delve into this further!

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Is Jinzaemon a descendant of Lord Sakuza? His son maybe. Jinza's Jizo Statue description says "Lord Sakuza please take this cloth and use it to bundle this little one (Jinzaemon?), so that he may live in peace." Jizo statue's normal description "to enswathe a jizo statue is to express feelings of parental love" Jinzaemon's also wearing a purple cloth around him. The same color as the Jinza's jizo statue's cloth.

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After finished his quests, He died, and when I returned to his corp later....His head is MISSING!!! What is this mean????

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Hes weak to poison and have no poise, so you can cancel most of his attacks just by hitting him. Just dont get careless he hits like a truck.

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So if I happened to have killed Jinzaemon Kumano at the reservoir and killed kotaro at the tree in senpou temple "by accident" am I unable to progress with that questline?

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If he ever gets dragonrot he won't move from his location, halting his questline until you cure it.

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Using Suzaku's Lotus Umbrella and block with it everytime he hits would make him stunned for a moment (It also works with Doujun as well), and doubling it with additional R1 attack after using the umbrella (who has fire) would make him stunned again, i found it as easy way to kill him quick..

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The reward that he gives you if you do his questline, the Jinza's Jizo Statue will be in your inventory along with a normal jinzo statue that you can only carry one at a time. That way you can have 2 extra revives for a difficult fight.

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So... this guy is basically Siegward of Catarina. He has the same character and he also pretty dumb as well.

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If you kill O'Rin early on and then return to meet him before he moves, he mourns his inability to hear the melody, and attacks you, preventing either questline and rewarding nothing on death but coin. there was no line upon death for me either. O'rin also says "Uwaaah" when she dies in this instance, which i'm mad I wasn't playing in japanese for.

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This dude as a red eye is a fun fight

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what if I already killed him?

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after luring him to the dungeon and reloading the area Doujun can be found talking to his master who is out of site from the door, reloading twice will have him send you to get red eyes from a carp in mibu village in ashina depths, that is as far as I have gotten so far, i do not have swimming from the Corrupted Monk so i was not able to see who he was talking to while he was in the cage.

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Where is even the Bottomless Hole? I can't seem to find it.

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Sad love story, but he finally met the girl he loved

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Is jinzas jizo statue any different from the normal bundled jizo statue?

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Will turn hostile if you find him after killing the Shimikichen Warrior in the Abandoned Dungeon.

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For luring him to the dungeon you’ll receive 3 lumps of fat wax

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If you enter the abandoned dungeon before encountering Jinzaemon you get a quest to send a subject fitting his description to the abandoned dungeon, and you have the option to lure him there when speaking to him. Does anyone know what happens as a result of luring/not luring?

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